HO R-17 Cars


   So, some of you know of my obsession with railroad stuff.  Okay, well, most of you.  And many of you also know of my interest in subways and transit equipment.  Alas, it's not always easy to model that sort of stuff- a lot of it is either not available or is very expensive.  But every now and then you come across something- a Boeing LRV from IHC for example- that's a decent model of some kind of transit equipment and available at a price that mere mortals can afford.  It's nice when that happens with a model in one's scale of choice and the model in question represents something you're fond of.  Enter the Life-Like HO scale R-17 New York City subway cars.  Delivered by St. Louis Car Co. in 1955, the real cars served in a number of different colors (many of which got plastered over with graffiti) on just about every route of the IRT division of system until 1988.  Life-Like has released these in two color schemes so far and a third is being prepared as of this writing.  The first set they put out was painted in the final colors the cars wore before retirement- red bodies with silver roofs.  The second set, and the one I have, represents the repainting most equipment got around 1970 with silver bodies adorned with a stripe in blue.  The third set is expected to be in the all-red colors used in the mid '60s.  The blue and silver set carries route signage in a style appropriate for the time, indicating that the cars are part of the shuttle train that runs between Grand Central Terminal and Times Square in Midtown.  These trains are only four cars long instead of the ten cars that you find in most IRT trains today... Which is fine because the set contains four cars!  So, at least this time, I don't have to buy multiple sets to do a full train.  Why they sell these in four car sets when the real things run in ten car sets, by and large, is beyond me... I'll file that in with ten-packs of hot dogs and eight-packs of hot dog buns.  I keep hoping one of the companies that makes these things will do five car sets and just get it over with.  But I digress...  On to the photos!



R-17 car 6539

Here we have a nice view of car no. 6539.  It's one of the three unpowered cars in the set.  Unfortunately here you can see one of the big problems this set has- the cars all sit way too high.  Like at least a scale foot too high.  See the big gap between the truck frames and the car body?  That should be nearly nonexistent.  And see how far the carbody is above the coupler there?  That space should be just about nonexistent too.  Still looking into how to correct that- might be nontrivial.  The cars' frames are made out of metal.


That R-17 car again.

A side view.  The big gap is apparent here too.  But otherwise the cars' detailing is nice- all the underbody bits look good, though they could use a bit of color here and there to bring out the detail- red warning labels, white insulators for the resistor grids (under the center entry door), etc.


6539 Window Closeup

A close-up of the window area showing the drop-sash windows (air conditioning on a subway car?  Well, not back when these were made...) and roll-sign showing the train's route.  And yes, the center window really was a little taller on these cars- though I think that was changed in a rebuild at some point.  The R-17 at the NYC Transit Museum has windows that are all the same size as do my O scale R-17's from Mike's Train House.  More on that later though...


Other side...

Here's the other side of the car.  Pretty much the same story as the other side- these cars were pretty much identical side to side and end to end.  Back then the IRT was getting a lot of cars with full cabs on both ends that could operate individually and mixed into trains indiscriminately.  Later they went to married pairs with cars having cabs only at one end (those ends arranged to face outward in each pair) but there was still a hutch on the non-cab end for the conductor to use when operating doors.  Later still they went to designs with full-width cabs at the ends of five-car sets.  This is why you must be in the first five cars of the train if you want to get off at South Ferry (1 and 9 routes)- the station is only big enough for the first five (it never got expanded to take ten car trains) and the full-width cabs between the fifth and sixth cars prevent passage.  Chinese fire drills at Rector Street are not uncommon as that's the last station before South Ferry.


GCT end

The business end of the R-17.  Here we see one of the most distinctive features of the 17 series- the round porthole in the end door.  This was made up of two pieces of glass and could be opened for ventilation by rotating the upper portion to open a wedge-shaped hole.  Most other types of cars had square drop-sash windows there or just solid unopenable panes- that configuration being the standard on air-conditioned cars.  These cars are missing the pantographs  (sprung flexible frames) that are mounted on the ends of cars to keep people from falling into the spaces in between at stations...  They're also missing the spring and chain arrangement used to keep people moving between cars from falling out, the horns, and the radio antennae that the real things had.  I might have to see about adding some parts to these- as soon as I can find someone that makes appropriate parts.  Might not be easy- especially for those pantographs.  Here we see that gap between the coupler and the body again... By the way, transit cars didn't have knuckle couplers generally.  Oh well.  Can't have everything.


Times Square end

The other end of the car- you'll note that it's virtually identical except that this end carries signage indicating that it's heading toward Times Square.


O scale and HO scale R-17 cars

Okay, as I said, Life Like isn't the only company to make these cars... And here we have one of my Mike's Train House O scale R-17 cars.  It has the horn (above the motorman's window on the end) and pantographs that the HO models lack, but it's still missing a proper antenna and it still has knuckle couplers.  The MTH car also carries more modern signage than the Life-Like cars do, a style that's very unusual in a car painted this way; they indicate that this car is part of a train running the 5 route, and the number being set in a diamond instead of a circle means that it's an express run.  I've thought about back-dating the signs but so far have been too lazy to actually do so.  When coupled with stock couplers, both sets' cars end up being way too far apart.  MTH makes some dummy couplers that are shorter and that might work better for this- I'd have to order quite a few of them though as my four R-17s only represent about 1/3 of my IRT fleet in that scale- I have eight R-21s to equip too.  The latter are painted in the '80s red and silver colors.  Fixing the HO set's coupling distance may take some customization.


Another scale comparison

Another comparison of scales.  O scale car No. 6559 is, like the HO car in front of it, unpowered.  It does have working ineterior lights however and as such does have a third rail pick-up roller, visible if you look under its truck.  These cars use the track system made popular by Lionel in which the third rail is in the center of the track.  On the real thing the third rail is off to the side.  The HO cars operate on a two-rail system just like the vast majority of other equipment in that scale.  In this view, you can easily see that the O scale car has windows that are all the same height whereas the HO car doesn't.  It's not easy to tell in this view, but the side-window route signs on the O scale car are also of a more modern type.


Model cars with real MetroCard and token

Here, for a sense of size and scale, the models are pictured with two items familiar to many New Yorkers- a modern electronic MetroCard and the last incarnation of the now-extinct subway token.  The former is about the same size as a credit card, though thinner.  The latter is about 20mm in diameter- just smaller than a nickel, for those familiar with the U.S. currency system.

And finally, here's a link to a picture showing these cars back in their day- in service on the shuttle at Grand Central, in 1979.  It oughtta look familiar by now:  http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?26666  The real thing shows off the type of coupler my models "should" have.  It's also equipped with proper pantographs, safety chains (hung together here to prevent accidental exit from the train should the door not be properly locked) and radio antenna (the dark thing under the "LOCAL" sign on the end).  You'll notice also that the side windows are open for ventilation.  The sign above the nearest door, hanging from the station ceiling, seems to indicate that this route was called "SS" at the time... Today it's just "S".